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發表於 2012-6-4 07:42:37
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本帖最後由 nicholasnick 於 2012-6-4 07:45 編輯
entry1 發表於 2012-6-3 11:15
明白ching所講既point,
先簡單一點黎講, 正如你講LONDON同NORTH LONDON既分別,
Yes, I understand that for a 'first time buyer' you can't choose a central location with a 600SQ...But C-hing, as you know buying a property is quite a long time investment & I guess to live in for at least 10 yrs, so for us, as a post 80s, if we are going to buy a property, we would have to plan it for later on as well ( ie) Marriage & may be to have 1 child). So I guess 600SQ is quite reasonable for 3 person? (knowing most 600SQ doesn't give you 600!)
In contrast, yes 300 SQ for 1 person in HK is reasonable...but...I am sure C-hing know most of the newer ( around 5-10 yrs old) apartment doesn't give you a whole 300SQ--if C-hing has read about the new property news lately 御悅 buy 272呎 =60呎,
http://141hongkong.com/forum/thread-974597-1-1.html
Off course, this is an exceptional case but even for an older property, ie) 10 yrs old, it is unlikely to give you even a 100SQ living/bedroom for 300SQ-as corridor takes up spaces too.
And off course, for 2M, 300SQ, it would be more than enough, as it would be around $ 7000 per sq.
And not sure where C-hing live at the moment, but I used to live in 680SQ Tsuen Wan MTR station-Luk Yeung, for my childhood, and now even there is selling for 4M ( and i guess we can't say Luk Yeung as a luxury place to live?)
And if C-hing thinks Tsuen wan is still a very central location, how about:
嘉湖山莊 7期 景湖居 7座 6樓 F室 18 28/05/12 $208萬 576呎 $3611 [ 2555天 升79%]
And this is the CHEAPEST for the whole of last month, so really there isn't too much choices other than living around there.
Again, off course, c-hing may say you can live in a much older area/older building, ie ) Sum Shai Po etc..but..we have to encounter about the condition of the house as well-as it would cost you money to refurbish...and I guess $3500 per sq can call very cheap compared to the current market average of 6000HKD per sq. So 嘉湖山莊 may be the only choice??? As I think this is one of the cheapest area in HK!
I do agree the world won't rotate around us, we should adapt the world, otherwise we can't survive. And as a post 80s, we are not complaining about whether when we can be a first time buyer, what we are complaining is the low salary which doesn't allow us to get onto the property leader.
I don't know if C-hing was born in the 60s/70s, but during the 80s, the average salary for a uni grad in HK was around 3000-4000HKD (as my relative was a uni grad at that time and he told me he was earning that figure), and Cityone Shatin was selling for 20K so, it was around 66x of your salary. and entry to Cityone now is around 260-280K ( and the average uni grad salary is around 12-14K a month) so that's over 230x of the salary.
Although that was a very basic figure, but it can allow us to understand the affordability of buying the first property during the 80s and now. (66x vs 230x) so that's over 3x difficulty.
And I do agree C-hing we have to think positive and to live happily everyday, but as a post 80s, we do have a goal (again everyone goal is different) but if one the aim is to buy a property, ( I guess this is a necessity to live rather than a luxury, ie) a car) then it become difficult for us-as a post 80s.
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