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發表於 2013-10-30 17:09:43 | 顯示全部樓層
哇...身歷其境....一定很有感覺
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發表於 2013-10-30 18:29:31 | 顯示全部樓層

到天花板咁高
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發表於 2013-10-30 18:55:34 | 顯示全部樓層
屏風喇叭不易玩,對器材/環境都要求高
但如器材配搭好環境理想,它的立體感是超乎想像的
聽人聲合唱可以"數人頭",聽Cello/Violin/sonata時,可以"摸"到枝琴
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-10-30 21:23:31 | 顯示全部樓層
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-10-30 21:24:38 | 顯示全部樓層
江交樂 發表於 2013-10-30 18:55
屏風喇叭不易玩,對器材/環境都要求高
但如器材配搭好環境理想,它的立體感是超乎想像的
聽人聲合唱可以"數人頭",聽Cello/Violin/sonata時,可以"摸"到枝琴

擺位已經抓爆頭
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發表於 2013-10-30 23:30:30 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 auraheart 於 2013-10-30 23:36 編輯
柒喜 發表於 2013-10-30 21:24
擺位已經抓爆頭


Listners gotta sit still too..lol....  Maggies generally are not too bad, unless it's Tympini...The new mags have better dispersion, better stereo imaging; not as directional..still is a panel lol...
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發表於 2013-10-30 23:33:45 | 顯示全部樓層
lomei 發表於 2013-10-30 18:29

到天花板咁高

This is only a Baby Maggie, lol....
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-10-30 23:58:36 | 顯示全部樓層
auraheart 發表於 2013-10-30 23:30
Listners gotta sit still too..lol....  Maggies generally are not too bad, unless it's Tympi ...

你地方大點擺都得啦但我又好似無見過人屏風大toe-in
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發表於 2013-10-31 00:06:19 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 auraheart 於 2013-10-31 05:26 編輯
柒喜 發表於 2013-10-30 23:58
你地方大點擺都得啦但我又好似無見過人屏風大toe-in


屏風, not really good for HK, limited space unless rich lol...There are plenty of other good speakers.  My place is not that big lol...This is still a big city, kinda expensive.  I would assume 6 or 8 screens will drive me nuts...There are other better choices..I am not the one who goes for ultimate sound only...gotta worry about space, $$, and looks too.  After the Tri-amp..not really willing to have such effort anymore, lol....continuous headache is a pain in the arse..

Mult screen Tympinis produced richer bass with authority in it's class which none of these new maggies can do, period.  Kinda shame !  No wonder why some can live with a pair of Tympini multpanel speakers without a sub-woofer.
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-10-31 00:15:47 | 顯示全部樓層
auraheart 發表於 2013-10-31 00:06
屏風, not really good for HK, limited space unless rich lol...There are plenty of other good speak ...

咁擺?唔係掛

                               
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-10-31 00:17:24 | 顯示全部樓層
慢到嘔四台可能又屎,聽日可以專心吃囡
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-10-31 00:18:55 | 顯示全部樓層
都係早抖,等個畫面轉都要分幾中
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發表於 2013-10-31 00:19:36 | 顯示全部樓層
貴過個單位!
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發表於 2013-10-31 00:19:11 | 顯示全部樓層
柒喜 發表於 2013-10-31 00:15
咁擺?唔係掛

Better play mono lol....
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-10-31 00:24:58 | 顯示全部樓層
123faifai 發表於 2013-10-31 00:19
貴過個單位!

貴唔過,但可以番香下起屋
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-10-31 00:23:56 | 顯示全部樓層
auraheart 發表於 2013-10-31 00:19
Better play mono lol....

阿爺就聽單聲姐,你睇下佢個唱盤,初頭以為係雜物房,但睇真對喇叭駁左線
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發表於 2013-10-31 05:18:42 | 顯示全部樓層
柒喜 發表於 2013-10-31 00:23
阿爺就聽單聲姐,你睇下佢個唱盤,初頭以為係雜物房,但睇真對喇叭駁左線

Ha ha, no wonder....mono...LoL..
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-10-31 05:35:16 | 顯示全部樓層
auraheart 發表於 2013-10-31 05:18
Ha ha, no wonder....mono...LoL..

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發表於 2013-10-31 05:58:03 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 auraheart 於 2013-10-31 06:24 編輯


That is my favorite erhu music lol....Tong Li, you like her?  She is ok, but her Cantonese songs are just so so, she not contonese..hehe.  Writing up my thing about maggie at the moment...lol..

Mini maggie 3.7

Mini maggie 3.7


補充內容 (2013-10-31 06:21):
Hey this is Mini Maggie 3.7 lol..very nice with a woofer/satellite.  This is NOT a computer speaker Lol...its a real thing for small room.
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發表於 2013-10-31 07:09:53 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 auraheart 於 2013-10-31 16:57 編輯

Sometime back  in late 2010, Started selling my stereo system.  At the end, got a turntable, tuner, 2 pre-amps, 2 power amps left and wanted to keep them.  I said "screw it ! After nearly 40 years of hi fi...I am tired."  Wanted the Sound Lab as my retirement speakers from hi fi, but they were nowhere to be found in/near my city.  Picked up a pair of Maggie 1.7s, they sounded fine, and most importantly...discount able, lol..Paid about $1,750 USD out the door in 2011.

This is a baby maggie 1.7, but it is 71 inch tall..weight a bit less than 50lbs each, kinda light.   Since I had limited gears to play with, had to drive it with the Bruce Moore custom design/build 40 watts @ 8 ohms, KT88 based class A tube mono amps with the Audible Illusions Dual Mono pre-amp and still using the 4 gauge Fulton Gold speaker cable.  No solid state amps, no ribbon tweeters.   Let them collect dust in the storage room.  Figure out I do more easy listening than anything else.

The 1.7 is a 4 ohms, dipole design (sound from front and back).  Positioning these speakers could be a pain and certainly takes time.  Ideally a 15 m/s delay is perfect, say about 5ft form the wall, I guess.  At least 3 ft from the side wall lol...that requires some space.  I would suggest to use a decent 100 watt amp to drive them, they eat some power.  Might get away with a 50-75 watt amp if class A and provide a good amount of current. (lotta $$ that way, lol..)

Balance of sound of different range benefits listeners ears.  Nothing really stands out, smooth, mellow, warm sounding are the favorites of classical and middle of the road listeners.  It does not have a true ribbon tweeter like the more expensive models.  However, this fake ribbon (haha!)does not stand out like the top models, it is a plus to my ears due to the fact that current maggie can't produce rich bass with authority as the Tympini models.  (It is only a simple speaker not compareable to the Tympani's six screen design.)  It really balance things out !   The super tweeter does the job well, more air..very detailed.  Mids are quite open, typical of maggie anyway, but improvements of dispersion and stereo images means less headache to listeners.  They are not as directional as other eletrostatic speakers.  Crystal clear, both string and vocals...main thing I look for personally.  Though not perfect, I can listen to these speakers for hours and not hurting my ears.  Adding a sub is highly recommanded(prefer active haha..).  I grab an old sub from my brother in law which he no longer using lol...The Audio Pro B2 50 from Sweden with its push/pull sub woofers mounting and bulid-in  100 watt calss A/B amp, very unique.  Now we are talking business.  The lows of the a typical Maggie is nothing to be proud of..just no freaking punch like other panel speakers no matter how good reviewers write, it is not there, not deep either.  Dipole crap, and no internal volume like the cabinet speakers..results no kicks, or punch lol...and lack of realism as in a big concert hall..THIN !  A good sub could bail out this kinda of speakers big time !
I better stop here,even I am only halfway done...but Zzzzz lol...Thank you all for reading.

                                                                       

Dual Mono Pre-Amp

Dual Mono Pre-Amp








補充內容 (2013-10-31 13:50):
My Audible Illusions Dual Mono Pre-Amp in a rack mount case ( Designed by Bruce Moore).  The amps I use to drive the maggie was build by Bruce, exclusively for me, after we had lunch lol....

補充內容 (2013-11-1 17:13):
One last thing is that I had a custom made speaker base that is a few inch tall...stands a lot better than factory one (could fall with a push).  So actual height of the speakers maybe 66 or 67 inch.
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