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如果NIKON真的出APS-C的EVIL.......................
那, D3100, D5000, D5100等. 一定死得


this is the main point
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發表於 2011-10-4 11:36:32 | 顯示全部樓層
gmen75 發表於 2011-10-4 07:44
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I hope CX can alive....

Nothing wrong with CX but the price!
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ericlee 發表於 2011-10-4 07:57
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It will success if the selling price is at $4000+

if less than 4500, I will buy one without hesitation.
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ericlee 發表於 2011-10-4 08:05
Nikon 唔捨得放棄 3000/5000 條 line

Canon 反而 ok

Same situation. Both company is the market leader of DSLR, any large sensor mirrorless will decrease their entry level DSLR sales.

G12 to mirrorless is same as P7100 to mirrorless....
If J1 equipped with a APS-C sensor, how many ppl still willing to buy D3100?
If G12 equipped with a APS-C sensor, how many ppl still willing to buy 1000D/600D?
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本帖最後由 gmen75 於 2011-10-4 14:34 編輯
dswhkg 發表於 2011-10-4 11:43
Same situation. Both company is the market leader of DSLR, any large sensor mirrorless will decrea ...


EVIL (m4/3) has been selling better than DSLRs in Japan for a while now.  Nikon does not ignore this fact and wants a piece of the action too, hence the CX.  Canon won't sit around much longer.

CX is only half the size of m4/3, obviously means that Nikon is pulling punches, or too greedy with the pricing, or both.  They may indeed be worried about affecting the sales of their low-end DSLRs.  However, the pricing is totally wrong at this sensor size, and will actually drive customers towards DX and away from CX.

The Olympus E-PL1 had a similar price and physical size as Canon's G10/G11, but with a significantly bigger sensor.  This is the correct strategy and a main factor in their success.

I really don't understand why you guys take the CX's size (1/4 of DX) as an absolute.  1/2 or 1/3 is more reasonable and totally workable, and way more fitting at the present price.

Don't forget that this CX series has the same physcial size as the Olympus PM1, but only half the sensor size and more expensive.  Nikon is shooting itself in the foot!

Also, m4/3 has been using essentially the same sensor all along.  That's why the CX can have a similar DxO mark despite being 50% smaller.  The coming iteration of m4/3 will no doubt have an upgraded sensor and pull further away from the CX.

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gmen75 發表於 2011-10-4 14:23
EVIL (m4/3) has been selling better than DSLRs in Japan for a while now.  Nikon does not ignore th ...

1. Agree that it is m4/3 which forced Nikon to produce Nikon-1, otherwise, why do something which may harmful to their DSLR sales!

2. Physical sensor size is a major factor to the camera size. As an electronic product, camera body can be small, but lens cannot. So the sensor is the determine factor.
Then the question is: what sensor size is the best balance between image quality and camera size?
Nikon selected x2.7, I also want to hear the reasons from Nikon, why x2.7? why not x1.8 or x2.2 ?

3) I think the major factor is the price:
If the sensor size is used to determine the grade of the camera, then the price of Nikon-1, say J1, should be between P7100 and E-PL3 ! i.e. between 3500 & 5000, say $4,250, then nobody will complain the CX size.
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發表於 2011-10-5 00:37:26 | 顯示全部樓層
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向來, NIKON一向都是定價貴過人

所以一定要看香港的賣街價,

記住, 香港未公佈價的,
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ericlee 發表於 2011-10-4 08:05
Nikon 唔捨得放棄 3000/5000 條 line

Canon 反而 ok

CANON情況一樣的

G12去APS-C MIRRORLESS, 一樣會打死自己的1000D和600D
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本帖最後由 gmen75 於 2011-10-5 07:39 編輯
snow99 發表於 2011-10-5 00:37
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向來, NIKON一向都是定價貴過人
所以一定要看香港的賣街價,

記住, 香港未公佈價的,


Are there any Nikon products selling cheaper in HK than in the USA?
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snow99 發表於 2011-10-5 00:38
CANON情況一樣的

G12去APS-C MIRRORLESS, 一樣會打死自己的1000D和600D

canon already give up 1000D
600D may survive as its spec is far better than a mirrorless EVIL
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gmen75 發表於 2011-10-5 07:39
Are there any Nikon products selling cheaper in HK than in the USA?

usually

but it's still expensive comparing to Pan/Oly EVILs
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本帖最後由 gmen75 於 2011-10-5 12:11 編輯
ericlee 發表於 2011-10-5 07:46
usually

but it's still expensive comparing to Pan/Oly EVILs


Places like Adorama and B&H aren't any more expensive than HK.

Agree that CX is not competitive at all at a higher price than m4/3.
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