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 樓主| 發表於 2013-11-2 11:27:35 | 顯示全部樓層
auraheart 發表於 2013-11-2 11:17
Customer got a choice, from different Klipsch forum in the US...almost all like after market board ...

世事絕不完美,如同囡囡,算是幼、窄、靚、索能集一身,也絕不長久。意思是那些缺點不強調即可,整容誰會接受假東西
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發表於 2013-11-2 11:38:21 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 auraheart 於 2013-11-2 11:44 編輯
柒喜 發表於 2013-11-2 11:27
世事絕不完美,如同囡囡,算是幼、窄、靚、索能集一身,也絕不長久。意思是那些缺點不強調即可,整容誰會接受假東西


Two different story, Mr 7up..the improvement board are baseds on the previous problem they had.  For example earlier La Scala had over shot at about 4khz, the new board tamed it.  It is not rather to make it sound different.  It is pin-pointed against current issues. (Like a bios update for computers)  My fault not to explain that clearly.

補充內容 (2013-11-2 11:43):
Very hard to write an objective review on this one, but I promise to make it as fair as possible,lol....
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發表於 2013-11-2 12:11:51 | 顯示全部樓層
回復 柒喜 #1 的帖子

呢部古機真係巨無霸。
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-11-2 12:28:47 | 顯示全部樓層
auraheart 發表於 2013-11-2 11:38
Two different story, Mr 7up..the improvement board are baseds on the previous problem they had.  F ...

哈哈!真係比你搞到眼淚水都出,自出黎搵食已知世上那有公平,半斤怎會有八兩{:183:做人做事}隨心隨意就行
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-11-2 12:30:18 | 顯示全部樓層
嘟嘟咀 發表於 2013-11-2 11:21
縮縮越來越詳盡

囡囡包膠更為詳盡,你搜搜豬
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發表於 2013-11-2 12:33:09 | 顯示全部樓層
柒喜 發表於 2013-11-2 12:30
囡囡包膠更為詳盡,你搜搜豬

I never saw your 囡囡包膠..must be long ago
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發表於 2013-11-2 12:42:16 | 顯示全部樓層
auraheart 發表於 2013-11-2 06:17
Holy crap !  I know these speakers so well !  I always see birch ones, not black..   I listen ...

聽得是清清楚楚
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-11-2 12:45:08 | 顯示全部樓層
auraheart 發表於 2013-11-2 12:33
I never saw your 囡囡包膠..must be long ago

神經版有二五仔,無理由齋文字咁悶,但一放相即死
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柒喜 發表於 2013-11-2 12:45
神經版有二五仔,無理由齋文字咁悶,但一放相即死

Writing up my review from memory at the moment..lotta personal stories/feeling involved which I try to omit..lol..
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發表於 2013-11-2 12:54:34 | 顯示全部樓層
我淨係知佢好大陣容!
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-11-2 12:55:38 | 顯示全部樓層
auraheart 發表於 2013-11-2 12:51
Writing up my review from memory at the moment..lotta personal stories/feeling involved which I tr ...

囡囡既回憶就不能omit,否則會成日跌錢
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-11-2 12:57:47 | 顯示全部樓層
123faifai 發表於 2013-11-2 12:54
我淨係知佢好大陣容!

睇相無乜點,實物仲得人驚,咁大份都唔豬點擺好
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發表於 2013-11-2 13:19:11 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 auraheart 於 2013-11-2 13:20 編輯
柒喜 發表於 2013-11-2 12:57
睇相無乜點,實物仲得人驚,咁大份都唔豬點擺好


Not really 大份...placing them is not too bad..it does not need any corners..easy compare to panels.  Only needs space..haha..

Crap, I am not even half way done, itz long already..lol..
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發表於 2013-11-2 14:06:03 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 auraheart 於 2013-11-3 01:41 編輯

Klipsch is a name I love and hate.  First time I saw the La Scala..Wow, SoB looks mean, nastsy, pro and unique.  Never saw an enclosure with a horn loaded base.  I was only 14 then.  After a demonstration, that was freaking awesome, I told me ex boss (hi fi teacher and I was a newspaper boy lol..) and he smiled.  For the next 3+ years, I listened to Klipsch hundreds of times, all models.  Including the famous corner horns and my beloved/hate La Scala.

The La Scala is a standard 3 way, full horn loaded speaker system.  Horns are known for their flat frequency responses, low distortion, efficiency and wide dynamic range.  However, most horn speakers has it own horn sound or coloration.  Generally a bit noisier due to its higher sensitivities.  They sound loud and noisy to haters, but sunny, bright and very detailed to lovers.

I have mix opinions about the La Scala.  I love it's powerful performance and yet I hate horn tweeters.

The bass is very very tight, like throwing good punches and waiting for a KO.  It is never lazy, rich and well defined but not too deep and not compareable to a good air suspension enclosure.  A trade off between efficiency and depth is unavoidable.  It is more than acceptable to me.  Adding a sub is not necessary, might even screw up its sound stage.   It's mid/low to mid/high is a beauty.  I still remember those white folks wanna hear some chinese music.  I bought some erhu, pipa and Teresa Teng.  Played呂培原"彝族舞曲" and ambushed from all side and others.  They were so accurately reproduced and out done most cone designs.  We felt the strings and other thing..it's vibrations, even the tails of sound haha..Teresa sound so sweet, there were no noticeable unnatural emphasis.  Sound stage was wide open.  People often said radiation pattern is directional for horns.   I strongly disagree and that never happened on the La Scala.  Superb stereo separation, clear imaging.  Was only driving them with a Marantz 3600 pre amp and a 240 power amp, not even consider fine gears.  The major major problem is the horn tweeter, it really sucks.  Lack of air, a bit harsh, sharp as needles was just about breaking my ear drums.  I trade 10db of sound pressure/w if that can be improved lol...  We took a break and went to the back yard to swim & BBQ. (got a swimming pool)

After BBQ and swimming was when the fun began..some women/girls were still in Bikini lol.. Boobs started bouncing while we were dancing as pop and rock were being played.  WoW ! It was awesome music! Thanks to the horn's coloration!  It was so bad, nasty, exciting, as we were having beers while dancing, haha..My best friend and I were so young, nobody seemed to care, haha.  Strong bass for drums, great highs and lovely vocals.  Was such a party with great music. Such a good rock and popz speaker system.  After we all got tired, we listened to some jazz, was surprisingly seductive.  Great dynamic range from soft to loud, that was a big plus.

In general, if I had the La Scala, I would match it with a Japanese low noise/low power class A amp.  Tube amps are fine, but nosier and a 15 inch bass requires some damping factor, at least over 80.  Match it with a simple tube pre amp/low noise.  Seems like horns speakers are born with noise, noise from pre amp and amps would make it a lot worst.  All and all, it is a fine speakers system if you don't deal with classical music much.  

補充內容 (2013-11-2 14:51):
Lotta "ball cakes" as we were drunk and dancing, was heavenly for a teenager..those girls didn't seem to care anyway lol...Had such great time with my xboss, learned a lot and listen to a lot of hi fi.  Well, basically more Marantz, Klipsch, Altec, Bozak, Electro Voice and JBL..Usually all white music..than anything else.  As I entered hi end in the late 70s, it was a different ball game.
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發表於 2013-11-2 15:29:52 | 顯示全部樓層
Klipsch La Scala

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klipsch la scala mid 2

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western electric 15A "small" SATO-Horn JBL 2420 Klipsch La Scala FOSTEX FT65H

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Woofer: Klipsch LA Scala with original K-33 woofer, cabinet-sides filled with sand (20hz-280Hz)

mid: Small copy of a Wesern Electric 15A 70cm x 70cm with JBL 2420 (280Hz-3,2KHz)

tweeter: FOSTEX FT65H (3,2KHz-20HKz)

CAMBRIDGE AUDIO magic 6
YAMAHA D2040 digital channel divider
for the mid: SUN AUDIO uchida with F2a11
for woofer and tweeter: PROTON six chanel Amp
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發表於 2013-11-2 16:22:30 | 顯示全部樓層
柒喜 發表於 2013-11-2 12:57
睇相無乜點,實物仲得人驚,咁大份都唔豬點擺好

Have you seen the Klipschorn?  
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柒喜 發表於 2013-11-2 12:57
睇相無乜點,實物仲得人驚,咁大份都唔豬點擺好

無咁大間屋,又點有咁大嘅器材
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-11-2 18:30:43 | 顯示全部樓層
auraheart 發表於 2013-11-2 16:22
Have you seen the Klipschorn?

可能見過已拆骨都未定,原整既就未見過
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-11-2 18:32:23 | 顯示全部樓層
123faifai 發表於 2013-11-2 17:19
無咁大間屋,又點有咁大嘅器材

放係公園與眾同樂
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