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發表於 2013-11-2 09:19:31 | 顯示全部樓層

嘩, 輸出力好強勁.  室內要有隔音設施才能用喎
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發表於 2013-11-2 09:39:55 | 顯示全部樓層
回復 dingdum #21 的帖子

要換大屋!
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發表於 2013-11-2 09:44:19 | 顯示全部樓層
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對喇叭好勁!            
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-11-2 09:47:54 | 顯示全部樓層
auraheart 發表於 2013-11-2 09:10
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Love them or Hate them for horn loaded speakers are in-creditable!  Strongly ag ...

市場上既同原廠有區別嗎?我指upgrade 後既聲底
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發表於 2013-11-2 09:55:05 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 auraheart 於 2013-11-2 10:25 編輯
柒喜 發表於 2013-11-2 09:47
市場上既同原廠有區別嗎?我指upgrade 後既聲底


After market is a lot better and only 1/2 price.  $500 USD for a pair of cross-over boards.  Huge performance difference between 62 Vs 80 made La Scalas'.
I say after 80s, rule of thumb tells me, don't matter as much cuz speaker technolgy is very mature in the 80s.  When I listen those in the early 80s, I was happy with the performance.  SoB so tight on the bass, bright, energy, power, punch,..direct opposite as Mac tube amps plus electrostatics with no sub. Though it is not as bright as some JBLs.  The lows might be as good as a 12 inch air suspension type of woofer. I don't see any major problems handling 35hz, ofcourse not perfect, most speakers start to roll off at about 50hz, including the famous AR3a.

補充內容 (2013-11-2 10:16):
It does not compare to air suspension on the richness, depth, ...nothing can to me.  It is still good for such a LOUD speaker.
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發表於 2013-11-2 09:57:10 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 auraheart 於 2013-11-2 10:04 編輯
dingdum 發表於 2013-11-2 09:19
嘩, 輸出力好強勁.  室內要有隔音設施才能用喎


Don't know, hehe...do you have wooden floor? Do you have some absorbing materials in room?  One thing is for high efficiency, horn loaded speakers, better have low noise stereo equipment. Shielding and hum prevention counts too, lol...
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發表於 2013-11-2 10:02:48 | 顯示全部樓層
柒喜 發表於 2013-11-2 06:16
我說我話: 曾有幸在旺角一間專營膽機配件二手店粗略一聽,當時老板只用5w膽機推動,試聽下只感La Scala,相 ...

"折疊式前負載號角設計"

聽個名刀知勁!

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發表於 2013-11-2 10:05:57 | 顯示全部樓層
希望有機會在更好環境下細心欣賞.....果真是重點
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-11-2 10:06:10 | 顯示全部樓層
auraheart 發表於 2013-11-2 09:55
After market is a lot better and only 1/2 price.  $500 USD for a pair of cross-over boards.  Huge  ...

你意思係外面做upgrade 跟原廠做既聲底一樣?用既元件是同grade亦或相同牌子相同型號?
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發表於 2013-11-2 10:09:56 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 auraheart 於 2013-11-2 10:30 編輯
柒喜 發表於 2013-11-2 10:06
你意思係外面做upgrade 跟原廠做既聲底一樣?用既元件是同grade亦或相同牌子相同型號?


Difference design, factor set at a fixed 4db.  After market ones adjustable from 2.5 all the way to 16db, if I remember correctly.  Seems after market uses better parts too.  From what my teacher told me,  the after market sounds better.  I never compared AB of these cross-over boards
One thing I know, the original caps on cross-over board dies young!  
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發表於 2013-11-2 10:23:07 | 顯示全部樓層
呢套嘢睇得又打得
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-11-2 10:23:48 | 顯示全部樓層
schmid9394 發表於 2013-11-2 10:02
"折疊式前負載號角設計"

聽個名刀知勁!

如果以我所聽既經驗來說,她脫離現代喇叭既聲效
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-11-2 10:26:33 | 顯示全部樓層
auraheart 發表於 2013-11-2 10:09
Difference design, factor set at a fixed 4db.  After market ones adjustable from 2.5 all the way t ...

既聲底跟原設計更好,但已非原聲
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發表於 2013-11-2 10:26:51 | 顯示全部樓層
好靚既經典喇叭
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發表於 2013-11-2 10:33:09 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 auraheart 於 2013-11-2 10:35 編輯
柒喜 發表於 2013-11-2 10:26
既聲底跟原設計更好,但已非原聲


I have to go and check on after maker website for info and it's design goal.  Can't answer at the moment.  Yes, I listened to Klipsch a lot, but I aren't a specialist..I don't even like LOUD speakers to begin with hehe...

Ladys and Gentlemen..This is a pair of great sounding speakers as long as you are not a heavy classical listener.

補充內容 (2013-11-2 10:48):
Guess Mr. 柒喜 wanna me to dig out everything from my memory hehe..will try my best to connect all the broken piece together.
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發表於 2013-11-2 10:58:43 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 auraheart 於 2013-11-2 14:27 編輯
柒喜 發表於 2013-11-2 10:26
既聲底跟原設計更好,但已非原聲


This is same specs as original, 1977 model, but better parts.  $310.00 Parts and labor, one day turn around.  I knew their caps died young lol..customer requested the same specs.  They offered you a choice..The AL3 cross-over is the best..that is post 81.  From 62 to 83, three different x-over boards. Those are not premium boards.  Just manufacture specs with better parts.



Old cross over

Old cross over
                                                                     

New cross over

New cross over

AL 3 cross-over

AL 3 cross-over


補充內容 (2013-11-2 11:15):
A lot of after market cross-over network available.  This is telling me Klipsch is too conservative.  From what I know, huge improvement after x-over upgrade.
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-11-2 11:14:36 | 顯示全部樓層
auraheart 發表於 2013-11-2 10:58
This is same specs as original, 1977 model, but better parts.  $310.00 Parts and labor, one day tu ...

同樣spec.的話應該比較接近原聲,機件老化要換就無計,但如果發現設計用料問題而去mod機我就不大認同,買機應是喜歡她的表現才買,買了回家又大改特改……
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-11-2 11:16:51 | 顯示全部樓層
auraheart 發表於 2013-11-2 10:33
I have to go and check on after maker website for info and it's design goal.  Can't answer at the  ...

隨心就行,其實講下該機特性,玩機心得就足夠
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發表於 2013-11-2 11:17:30 | 顯示全部樓層
柒喜 發表於 2013-11-2 11:14
同樣spec.的話應該比較接近原聲,機件老化要換就無計,但如果發現設計用料問題而去mod機我就不大認同,買機應是喜歡她的表現才買,買了回家又大改特改……

Customer got a choice, from different Klipsch forum in the US...almost all like after market board with improve design.
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發表於 2013-11-2 11:18:50 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 auraheart 於 2013-11-2 14:28 編輯
柒喜 發表於 2013-11-2 11:16
隨心就行,其實講下該機特性,玩機心得就足夠


I am more less a tech guy..I go for the improvements, knowingly I could always go back if it does not work good lol..

Guess no more searching, should start writing up my thoughts about the La Scala..
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