(Video)Motor Trend最佳Driver’s Car 2012場地試車片，全數九部!

alfredku

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I love the design of Lamborghini Aventador and McLaren MP4-12C.
Thanks.

typhoonno8

Addicted 發表於 2012-8-29 00:30
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Only if Jag has the reliability of the German and Japan made... they loo ...

Haha,  u r full of sense of humour.  I know it is expensive to maintain it.  It is still that unreliable? even the new generation?

typhoonno8

gmen75 發表於 2012-8-29 09:22
Jaguar sedans now look like Lexus and don't have any connections to previous designs.

I can't agree that Jag looks like Lexus.  Lexus though is making improvement but still far behind.  Regarding continuity, S-type looks fine, but I still prefer the XF.  A brand in the situation that Jag was in the past 2 decades, it needs changes.  

my 2 cents

typhoonno8

Addicted 發表於 2012-8-29 00:14
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Jaguar was in bad health due to the poor UK economy in the 80s, then For ...

Art and car, can be a very topic to dis cuss.  I remember Top gear made a very funny section about this topic in an episode when they talked about the Alfa 8C

補充內容 (2012-8-29 23:14):
The funny thing here is u can't use the word "discu ss"

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only smart people understand my sense of humor

Compare to the German and Japanese competitors, Jaguar's reliability is still quite bad.  Probably better than the French and Italians.

typhoonno8

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Ok, no wonder

And then I can tolerate a Jag as long as I can afford the expensive parts

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我反而覺得Lexus 嘅設計係退步…九十年代時嘅Lexus 每個型號有自己風格。我亦從來唔覺LS 抄S-Class.

我之前開過另一個topic 討論過design.

http://141hongkong.com/thread-1020303-1-2.html

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as long as you don't mind those expensive parts are co-developed with Ford, and they put a huge mark-up on it with a Jaguar logo on it.

gmen75

typhoonno8 發表於 2012-8-29 23:10
I can't agree that Jag looks like Lexus.  Lexus though is making improvement but still far behind. ...

Well that's the impression Jaguar (at least the XF) gives me:

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The Jaguar still has the "crouching cat" stance in its design, probably how the suspension setting blends into the body.

I can't tell about the Lexus' different models now.  I can tell the gold one is an LS, but is the silver one a ES?

schodico

like those sporty cars

gmen75

Addicted 發表於 2012-8-30 07:33
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The Jaguar still has the "crouching cat" stance in its design, probably how  ...

From top: GS, ES and LS.

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See if you can pitch in the new GS in there... they all look alike, esp the front...

gmen75

Addicted 發表於 2012-8-30 08:15
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See if you can pitch in the new GS in there... they all look alike, esp the  ...

The latest "corporate nose" from Lexus is definitely one of the fugliest EVER (if not THE fugliest)!

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It's not ugly to me, it's just that their designers got lazy and make all their cars look the same... No character.

Talking about the fug grille, nobody is going to unseat the Acura

typhoonno8

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The XF has more subtle details, just IMHO

typhoonno8

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For GS, it is fine.  For LS.  Even GS, the 1st generation Aristo is still the best.

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The S140 Aristo/GS has to be good looking -- it's penned by the great Giorgetto Giugiaro from Italdesign!

typhoonno8

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Yeah.....it is.  Then Toyota face-lifted it with the e-class head lamp design......OMG, completely ruined the design

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You mean the second gen S160?  Yes, I think they were trying to copy the evolutionary design from the "four-eyes" E-Class, but Toyota has a better execution than Mercedes.  When I look at both cars now, the Aristo is still something I am after, but the Mercedes looks really old and out of place.