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應用軟件的嚴冬! 還有多久才見曙光啊! (歡迎入嚟吹吹水)

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發表於 2011-9-14 18:51:43 | 顯示全部樓層
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-9-14 18:52:53 | 顯示全部樓層
ykkenmendd 發表於 2011-9-14 18:49
因為我不缺錢, 你信嗎

I believe, but not a reason to refuse.

it is no harm to gain more money.... why not?
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發表於 2011-9-14 18:58:44 | 顯示全部樓層
dswhkg 發表於 2011-9-14 18:50
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may be individual people, may be company.

明白            
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發表於 2011-9-14 19:00:01 | 顯示全部樓層
dswhkg 發表於 2011-9-14 18:52
I believe, but not a reason to refuse.

it is no harm to gain more money.... why not?

我個仔出來返工了 我是冇咩負擔的人
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發表於 2011-9-14 19:02:07 | 顯示全部樓層
煩惱 發表於 2011-9-14 18:52
Apple 好似收 40% ...

咁多, 不過你仲多, 收租金50%  兩邊收=100%
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-9-14 19:04:54 | 顯示全部樓層
煩惱 發表於 2011-9-14 18:52
Apple 好似收 40% ...

30% or 40%? I forgot.

But it is worth to pay: Apple provide all the necessary tools to write the app, and the marketing perform, payment collection... etc.
A programmer write a program, upload it to AppleStore, then waiting for income, no extra cost.

Compare to PXXW in HK, you have to pay that high percentage, just because they collect the money for you.
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發表於 2011-9-15 00:29:59 | 顯示全部樓層
一個可能不太貼題的答案,系軟件出得太多太快,
如我地的it人都學唔切,user又可以點?
梗系唔會攞錢買啦!
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-9-15 14:15:52 | 顯示全部樓層
馬後砲 發表於 2011-9-15 00:29
一個可能不太貼題的答案,系軟件出得太多太快,
如我地的it人都學唔切,user又可以點?
梗系唔會攞錢買啦! ...

haha, no need to worry, users just use, if your product is attractive

my 10 years old small boy knows iPad much better than me

.... but you are right, why a boy of 10 knows more than an IT guy with 30 years experience ?!!
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-9-15 14:22:50 | 顯示全部樓層
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sorry, mis-understand your answer.

In the area of business applications, everything is old, nothing new (except the improvement of human interface) ....
for example, for an accounting program, the accounting rule didn't change for a long long time, the basic concept is the same, so the functionality of program is un-change too
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發表於 2011-9-16 08:10:30 | 顯示全部樓層
我未玩過apple,但聽聞佢個software development kit 好好,lib又多,
寫game或apps好易?
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發表於 2011-9-20 02:18:09 | 顯示全部樓層
dswhkg 發表於 2011-9-15 14:15
haha, no need to worry, users just use, if your product is attractive

my 10 years old small boy k ...

because hes interested in the technology more than you are =)
you might have a solid troubleshooting skillset but you might not be as interested as he is in the product
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-9-20 09:11:43 | 顯示全部樓層
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"has interested in the technology"
You are right!!!
I don't eager to learn technology, same as a OL, I would like everything ready and I just to use it, no more technology learning wanted
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發表於 2011-9-29 11:23:45 | 顯示全部樓層
it 人用英文都好正常~@
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發表於 2012-6-30 08:00:14 | 顯示全部樓層
雪完美 發表於 2011-9-29 11:23
it 人用英文都好正常~@

一個重要原因,大部分server,都系英文版本,
做緊野,順便偷G上來吹下水,自然得英文回應了
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發表於 2012-6-30 20:43:43 | 顯示全部樓層
ykkenmendd 發表於 2011-9-14 18:07
apps我冇研究唔知, windows mobile application唔知算唔算apps, 我都有寫過mobile data collector的簽名 ...

寫 Android App 必須要有很好的 Java 底
我從前學壞師, 學 Visual Basic, ASP, ASP.NET...貪容易上手
冇去學Java (因為果陣 Microsoft 的 market share 大), 怕難 (真係冇Q用!)
後來學 Android , 先去學識 Java 後至去上 Android 堂
唔係盞浪費學費
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發表於 2012-6-30 21:19:54 用手機發表 | 顯示全部樓層
我系老一脫的人了,你所講的幾乎全部唔識
近年略識皮毛只有c
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發表於 2012-7-5 08:58:10 | 顯示全部樓層
我只係一個電玩家

八、九十年代電腦軟件百花齊放,目不瑕給

而家嘅軟件都係流於新嘅 version,不斷侵食硬件資源,但又唔見效能大咗幾多

係唔係現有應用軟件已經可以滿足晒大家而唔需要再開發,定係創意去到盡頭呢
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發表於 2012-7-5 10:54:41 | 顯示全部樓層
dswhkg 發表於 2011-9-14 18:42
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for example, you write a dictionary program, from English to Chinese.

Please don't forget that Apple AppStore would take half of your app's price as their commission. Sell apps there is not FOC actually.
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發表於 2012-7-5 11:49:37 | 顯示全部樓層
waiking 發表於 2012-7-5 08:58
我只係一個電玩家

八、九十年代電腦軟件百花齊放,目不瑕給

百花齊放係市场仍然未成熟时才有,后来总會发展到有垄断者垄断市场,例如M$

"新嘅 version,不斷侵食硬件資源"係市场策略:
New Ver --> More resources is needed --> force users upgrade H/W --> H/W vendors force users to upgrade software(OEM ver s/w) --> in-competitable among new/old ver --> upgrade all software to same new version --> purchase more new H/W

"有應用軟件已經可以滿足晒大家而唔需要再開發"
肯定唔係,但是創意係靠市场去支持的。。。
仲有一個因素:太多人有电脑,人们都會假定电脑知识不值钱,不意志支付多一些。。。
相同的:太多人有相机,人们都會假定會拍照不值钱,不意志支付多一些,所以现在的摄影师都是十分困难的
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發表於 2012-7-5 11:51:56 | 顯示全部樓層
80hg 發表於 2012-7-5 10:54
Please don't forget that Apple AppStore would take half of your app's price as their commission. S ...

As I had said:
But it is worth to pay: Apple provide all the necessary tools to write the app, and the marketing perform, payment collection... etc.
A programmer write a program, upload it to AppleStore, then waiting for income, no extra cost.

Compare to PXXW in HK, you have to pay that high percentage, just because they collect the money for you.
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