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發表於 2011-7-23 05:02:35 | 顯示全部樓層
Talking about Bosses;  

A few years ago I asked for money to setup a firewall.

The boss said "Firewall" what is that and why do you need it ?

... hmm to stop outsider from hacking into our network ...

The Boss said "Why would anyone want to hack into our network ? We are not a bank!  What can they steal ?"

Bosses..  you can't live with them and you can't live without them!


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發表於 2011-7-23 08:12:25 | 顯示全部樓層
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Bosses won't spend money on something that they don't understand. It is nature.

The core problem is: the position of IT department in a company is too low in HK, no say at all.

If a cleaner asks me to buy a new XXX machine to clean the toilet better, I most probably reject this proposal.
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發表於 2011-7-23 09:02:19 | 顯示全部樓層
MsLittle, with increase of privacy awarenes, it might be easier to get boss to agree these  days.
I used to run a diskless Linux box as firewall. No need to get boss approval bcz I used colleagues' discarded machines to build it.
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-7-23 10:23:05 | 顯示全部樓層
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你肯定好senior, 我仲係聽老闆指示d 人,
前幾年, d 中小企唔會諗咁多security 野,
lee幾年, 咁多大公司中招先知驚
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發表於 2011-7-23 12:29:56 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 MsLittle 於 2011-7-23 13:26 編輯


Things changed after a little infamous pest called MS Blaster!

Anyone can be Senior if one work for an IT department of ONE.
you become th defacto head of department!!!!
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發表於 2011-7-23 12:30:23 | 顯示全部樓層
假波男 發表於 2011-7-23 09:02
MsLittle, with increase of privacy awarenes, it might be easier to get boss to agree these  days.
I ...

Smoothwall  by anychance ?
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發表於 2011-7-23 13:30:19 | 顯示全部樓層
dswhkg 發表於 2011-7-23 08:12
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Bosses won't spend money on something that they don't understand. It is nature ...

In Business the Bottom line is Money.

An internal IT department never makes any money.  It exist to spend money.

The trick is to market the department as "SAVING MONEY"!


of course that is easier said than done.
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-7-23 17:28:12 | 顯示全部樓層
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I am CEO(Complaint execution Office),
means Helpdesk
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發表於 2011-7-23 18:04:04 | 顯示全部樓層
假波男 發表於 2011-7-23 09:02
MsLittle, with increase of privacy awarenes, it might be easier to get boss to agree these  days.
I ...

Smart work! But don't forget to let your boss know your work
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發表於 2011-7-23 18:09:48 | 顯示全部樓層
MsLittle 發表於 2011-7-23 12:29
Things changed after a little infamous pest called MS Blaster!

Anyone can be Senior if one work f ...

haha, those hackers, though makes trouble, are friends of IT guys !!!

That made me thought of the Y2K crises issue: don't know who smart guy create such crises, which lead IT business had a good time for years!
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發表於 2011-7-23 18:20:11 | 顯示全部樓層
MsLittle 發表於 2011-7-23 13:30
In Business the Bottom line is Money.

An internal IT department never makes any money.  It exist  ...

good point!

That need a smart guy who can convince the boss that IT can save money.

But, unfortunately, many bosses not willing to pay good for IT department. So in those companies, the in-house IT guys are not smart guys.
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-7-23 19:49:58 | 顯示全部樓層
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MS Blaster 都幾經典, 做就o左好多security既職位
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發表於 2011-7-24 08:53:45 | 顯示全部樓層
dswhkg ching, thanks.
MsLittle, it's not.
Liondog ching, the biggest reward for being the helpdesk is perhaps from the secretaries
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-7-24 09:53:43 | 顯示全部樓層
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好同意, it 做完野, 好多人見唔到,
真係要特登話俾你老闆知有乜value
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-7-24 09:54:54 | 顯示全部樓層
回應 假波男 的帖子

絶對係, 但鬧得最多都係d secretaries呢,
慢少少都俾人鬧
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-7-24 09:57:31 | 顯示全部樓層
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lee 個真係重點, it 係公司入面賺唔錢
但冇電腦你幫sales有冇咁容易開單先
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發表於 2011-7-24 12:44:22 | 顯示全部樓層
liondog 發表於 2011-7-24 09:57
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lee 個真係重點, it 係公司入面賺唔錢

電腦帶來方便
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-7-24 17:33:15 | 顯示全部樓層
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係楂錢o個個係cfo, 唔放錢,
it 乜都唔洗做囉
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發表於 2011-7-24 20:50:11 | 顯示全部樓層
dswhkg 發表於 2011-7-23 18:20
good point!

That need a smart guy who can convince the boss that IT can save money.

absolutely agree with you
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發表於 2011-7-24 20:51:20 | 顯示全部樓層
liondog 發表於 2011-7-24 09:57
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lee 個真係重點, it 係公司入面賺唔錢

but it is always the sales department get the most bonus, while IT only has a little....
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