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~~ 誰是NBA近代最佳的三分射手 ~~

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發表於 2010-10-28 01:22:08 | 顯示全部樓層
I pick Ray Allen. He and Miller are both great spot up shooters, but Allen's in between shots are better and smoother in my opinion.

Good View
So far we prefer Reggie Miller for best 3 point player.(up to this moment it is right)
In the other hand,one more things I want to share.
If there's no accident and everything is good.
Ray Allen will overtake Reggie Miller in the near future.
reference information
Ray Allen(three-point total scores 2,449 from season 1996-97 to 2010-11~ around 14 seasons ,Ray Allen will go on) vs Reggie Miller(three-point total scores 2560 from season 1987-88 to 2004-05/18 seasons)
Ray Allen(3 point Percentage 39.6%) vs Reggie Miller (3 point Percentage 39.5%)
In fact,Ray Allen is a great 3 point player.      

[ 本帖最後由 seijyo-yuu 於 2010-10-28 01:52 編輯 ]
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發表於 2010-10-29 03:00:04 | 顯示全部樓層
Reggie 絕對係偉大的三分射手!
但以射姿或射球的方法來說,小弟就不太恭維... (Kerr 同 Hornacek 都唔好!)

射出好的三分球,身體的平衡配合舒適的射姿係好重要的!
Kerr 同 Hornacek 因為身裁的關係,射球時要借助全身跳躍來起動...
要佢地全場都交出這樣的射球,真係幾困難!
而 Reggie 手部的 follow through 係好靚的,但唔知點解,佢對腳終是好似將失平衡般分開的...

好似 Bird,Rice,Ray Gun 同 Peja 等射法就 smooth 好多!

P.S. Kerr 同 Hornacek 都係偉大的射手!
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發表於 2010-10-30 21:30:26 | 顯示全部樓層
Kerr 同 Hornacek 因為身裁的關係,射球時要借助全身跳躍來 ...

Even in Steve Kerr heyday, he can not dunk, it's really hard to believe.The lack of jumping ability, Steve Kerr is 6 feet 3 inches, but can not dunk. He can live on in the NBA is his strength (Annotation, 3 point) "

Steve Kerr is 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) vs Ray Allen is 6 ft 5 in (1.96 m) for reference

notes:Kerr ended his career as a dependable bench player who could make jump shots and three-pointers in critical moments. Even when he was with the Chicago Bulls, and both he and Michael Jordan were on the floor at the same time, when a free throw had to be taken due to a technical foul, Kerr was usually the one to take the shot.

Also attached FOOT LOCKER THREE-POINT SHOOTOUT YEAR-BY-YEAR WINNERS for reference

1986 - Larry Bird, Boston
1987 - Larry Bird, Boston
1988 - Larry Bird, Boston
1989 - Dale Ellis, Seattle
1990 - Craig Hodges, Chicago
1991 - Craig Hodges, Chicago
1992 - Craig Hodges, Chicago
1993 - Mark Price, Cleveland
1994 - Mark Price, Cleveland
1995 - Glen Rice, Miami
1996 - Tim Legler, Washington
1997 - Steve Kerr, Chicago
1998 - Jeff Hornacek, Utah
2000 - Jeff Hornacek, Utah
2001 - Ray Allen, Milwaukee
2002 - Peja Stojakovic, Sacramento
2003 - Peja Stojakovic, Sacramento
2004 - Voshon Lenard, Denver
2005 - Quentin Richardson, Phoenix
2006 - Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas
2007 - Jason Kapono, Miami
2008 - Jason Kapono, Toronto
2009 - Daequan Cook, Miami
2010 - Paul Pierce, Boston

Season Players in NBA All-Star Weekend Three-Point Shootout for reference
1985–86 Larry Bird, Dale Ellis, Sleepy Floyd, Craig Hodges, Norm Nixon, Kyle Macy, Trent Tucker, Leon Wood
1986–87 Danny Ainge, Larry Bird (2), Michael Cooper, Dale Ellis (2), Craig Hodges (2), Detlef Schrempf, Byron Scott, Kiki Vandeweghe
1987–88 Danny Ainge (2), Larry Bird (3), Dale Ellis (3), Craig Hodges (3), Mark Price, Detlef Schrempf (2), Byron Scott (2), Trent Tucker (2)
1988–89 Michael Adams, Danny Ainge (3), Dale Ellis (4), Derek Harper, Gerald Henderson, Craig Hodges (4), Rimas Kurtinaitis, Reggie Miller, Jon Sundvold
1989–90 Larry Bird (4), Craig Ehlo, Bobby Hansen, Craig Hodges (5), Michael Jordan, Reggie Miller (2), Mark Price (2), Jon Sundvold (2)
1990–91 Danny Ainge (4), Clyde Drexler, Tim Hardaway, Hersey Hawkins, Craig Hodges (6), Terry Porter, Glen Rice, Dennis Scott
1991–92 Dell Curry, Craig Ehlo (2), Craig Hodges (7), Jeff Hornacek, Jim Les, Dražen Petrović, Mitch Richmond, John Stockton
1992–93 B. J. Armstrong, Dana Barros, Craig Hodges (8), Dan Majerle, Reggie Miller (3), Terry Porter (2), Mark Price (3), Kenny Smith
1993–94 B. J. Armstrong (2), Dana Barros (2), Dell Curry, Dale Ellis (5), Steve Kerr, Eric Murdock, Mark Price (4), Mitch Richmond (2)
1994–95 Nick Anderson, Dana Barros (3), Scott Burrell, Steve Kerr (2), Dan Majerle (2), Reggie Miller (4), Chuck Person, Glen Rice (2)
1995–96 Dana Barros (4), Hubert Davis, Steve Kerr (3), Tim Legler, George McCloud, Glen Rice (3), Dennis Scott (2), Clifford R. Robinson
1996–97 Dale Ellis (6), Steve Kerr (4), Tim Legler (2), Terry Mills, Sam Perkins, Glen Rice (4), John Stockton (2), Walt Williams
1997–98 Hubert Davis (2), Dale Ellis (7), Jeff Hornacek, Sam Mack, Reggie Miller (5), Tracy Murray, Glen Rice (5), Charlie Ward
1998–99[a] —
1999–00 Ray Allen, Mike Bibby, Hubert Davis (3), Jeff Hornacek (2), Allen Iverson, Dirk Nowitzki, Terry Porter (3), Bob Sura
2000–01 Ray Allen (2), Pat Garrity, Allan Houston, Rashard Lewis, Dirk Nowitzki (2), Steve Nash, Bryon Russell, Peja Stojaković
2001–02 Ray Allen (3), Wesley Person, Mike Miller, Steve Nash (2), Paul Pierce, Quentin Richardson, Steve Smith, Peja Stojaković (2)
2002–03 Brent Barry, Pat Garrity (2), Wesley Person (2), Peja Stojaković (3), Antoine Walker, David Wesley
2003–04 Chauncey Billups, Kyle Korver, Voshon Lenard, Rashard Lewis (2), Cuttino Mobley, Peja Stojaković (4)
2004–05 Ray Allen (4), Joe Johnson, Voshon Lenard (2), Kyle Korver (2), Vladimir Radmanović, Quentin Richardson (2)
2005–06 Gilbert Arenas, Ray Allen (5), Chauncey Billups (2) , Dirk Nowitzki (3), Quentin Richardson (3), Jason Terry
2006–07 Gilbert Arenas (2), Damon Jones, Jason Kapono, Mike Miller (2), Dirk Nowitzki (4), Jason Terry (2)
2007–08 Daniel Gibson, Richard Hamilton, Jason Kapono (2), Steve Nash (3), Dirk Nowitzki (5), Predrag Stojaković (5)
2008–09 Mike Bibby (2), Daequan Cook, Danny Granger, Jason Kapono (3), Rashard Lewis (3), Roger Mason
2009–10 Chauncey Billups (3), Daequan Cook (2), Stephen Curry, Channing Frye, Danilo Gallinari, Paul Pierce (2)

notes : Larry Bird, the inaugural winner of this contest, and Craig Hodges have each won three straight times, while Mark Price, Jeff Hornacek, Peja Stojaković and Jason Kapono have each won two consecutive times. Hodges and Kapono are tied for the scoring record with 25 points. Hodges also holds the record for making 19 consecutive shots (which were not made in his 25-point round). Michael Jordan holds the distinction of having the lowest score ever; he scored 5 points in the 1990 competition. Boston Celtics player Paul Pierce, who won the contest in the 2009–10 season, is the defending champion.

[ 本帖最後由 seijyo-yuu 於 2010-10-30 22:54 編輯 ]
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發表於 2010-10-31 02:04:12 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 seijyo-yuu 於 2010-10-30 21:30 發表

Even in Steve Kerr heyday, he can not dunk, it's really hard to believe.The lack of jumping ability, Steve Kerr is 6 feet 3 inches, but can not dunk. He can live on in the NBA is his strength (Annota ...


極其詳盡細致的資料!
如小弟所說,Kerr and Hornacek 都係不可多得的射手,而射球亦係佢地能生存於 NBA 最大的本錢!

小弟所想講的是,相比於他們兩位射手;Ray Allen 等的射球方法是較有效率!他倆的射法係需要身體多個部位配合才發射出,對體力的要求亦較高 (觀乎 Peja、Bird 則好像不需力般...)
至於 Reggie 的射法則是佢自己的習慣問題;比較起來,Glen Rice 射球時身體的平衡就好似較和諧了 (這並不表示 Rice 的 FG% 較好)!

概括來講,!若同樣做得到的話,要射出好的遠距離投射,以上三位射法都不會是好的學習對象...

P.S. 這與他們的成就絕對無關!
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發表於 2010-10-31 14:59:18 | 顯示全部樓層
IF only consider accuracy Kerr is better than Miller
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發表於 2010-11-1 20:14:42 | 顯示全部樓層
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發表於 2010-11-1 20:25:19 | 顯示全部樓層

回覆 #22 阿島 的帖子

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發表於 2010-11-2 12:34:35 | 顯示全部樓層
Miller ... my pick ^^
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發表於 2010-11-8 14:48:55 | 顯示全部樓層
If only talking about 3pts ability, Kerr must be the most unbelieveable in that area, his stats saids it all.

Jeff is more a team player, but he is still deadly.

But I still reckons Reggie and Rice are the most deadly out of them because these two guys could just turn a game around by scoring fast points. Peja and Allen I think is still a step behind Reggie and Rice.
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發表於 2010-11-9 00:51:49 | 顯示全部樓層
Ray Allen
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發表於 2010-12-6 19:36:50 | 顯示全部樓層
Reggie Miller
唔使睇!佢出手嘅時候好多時都喺俾人緊逼嘅!
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發表於 2010-12-7 10:48:02 | 顯示全部樓層
小鳥
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發表於 2010-12-7 23:59:01 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 gnatks 於 2010-12-7 12:22 發表

yes...but he's really good at 3 piont...still remember his 8 points at the last few seconds...


那是他在 95年 NBA 東岸半準決賽對 Knicks 的 Game 1;在比賽最後 8.9秒帶領 Pacers 在落後 6分下一口氣取得 8分而反敗為勝!
『Miller Time』又真係幾唔得了!
今年他重很大機會入選 NBA 的名人堂添!
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發表於 2010-12-21 14:55:45 | 顯示全部樓層
唔洗諗一家係R.ALLEN~~
快狠準~
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發表於 2011-1-3 17:40:59 | 顯示全部樓層
原來不知不覺間,Ray Gun 的總三分入球已經到達 2508 球了 (截到一月三日為止)。
相比史上投進最多三分球的米拿 (2560 球) 祇相差 52 球;
看來他今季應成為新一任 NBA 投進最多三分的球員了!
恭喜恭喜!
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發表於 2011-1-8 00:48:45 | 顯示全部樓層
三分....細個睇波既唔可以唔提mark price
reggie Miller......當年睇嗰場playoff 真係好神....講3 分 shooter.....should be the first pick
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發表於 2011-1-8 16:31:39 | 顯示全部樓層
I go for Steve Kerr - cuz he got some many ringsssss
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發表於 2011-1-8 17:59:09 | 顯示全部樓層
Miller暴强
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發表於 2011-1-16 23:40:33 | 顯示全部樓層
I like Ray Allen also
but there is a pure shooter - JJ Redick, he might be the next top 3pt shooter.
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