How far they have fallen since SAF retired..... Yes they have won a few cups throughout the 11 years but they have lost their fear factor over the years and now just a team who can spent and get players on big fat contract but not really a team that can compete like they used to have year in year out.... When you look at their way of passing, its so predictable that most of the teams in premier league can defend and thats exactly why they score so few this season as well....