音效卡 VS 解码 器

graffiti

想知PC內的音效卡, 与外置迷你USB DAC (i.e. musiland 01US)及中型有chips的, (如burr brown etc,) 的DAC, 除左有多元化接口, up sampling 外有什麼分别?  

auraheart

graffiti 發表於 2014-5-15 18:57

                               
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想知PC內的音效卡, 与外置迷你USB DAC (i.e. musiland 01US)及中型有chips的, (如burr brown etc,) 的DAC,  ...

I have never compared them yet.   I don't think they are comparable thought.  Main difference could be the conversion itself, I guess.  

graffiti

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what I'm interested is the sound quality comparison.
Should I say, the more expensive the toy is, the better the sound.

auraheart

graffiti 發表於 2014-5-15 21:55

                               
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what I'm interested is the sound quality comparison.

I think a good quality DAC would sound better than PC sound cards, not in the same class.  However, as you know for hi end, you pay a lot more for small improvements.

gooseling

The subject is interesting. I had the old experience of the Sound Blaster Pro last decade. The sound was very good.

auraheart

gooseling 發表於 2014-5-15 22:19

                               
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The subject is interesting. I had the old experience of the Sound Blaster Pro last decade. The sound ...

That is a bit old.. Even the AWE64 or Soundblaster live (top line at the time) doesn't compare to today's sound cards.  Not to mention any decent USB DACs'.  My computer has 7.1 sound, not too bad but there is still no comparison to any decent USB DAC..

gooseling

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Ha Ha ! You are right.It was the AWE64 ! Costing $1700 at that time roughly.

graffiti

auraheart 發表於 2014-5-15 22:26

                               
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That is a bit old.. Even the AWE64 (top line at the time) doesn't compare to today's sound  ...

This means that a USB DAC is a must when you play CAS

auraheart

gooseling 發表於 2014-5-15 22:36

                               
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Ha Ha ! You are right.It was the AWE64 ! Costing $1700 at that time roughly.

Yep yep, I had different generations of Soundblaster cards, most were top line, since I played a massive on-line game called Everquest (Sony game) for 12 years.  I don't think any of them are anywhere near the USB DAC we reviewed here.  For example, the inexpensive Teac USB DAC would be way better than any Soundblaster card, sound quality wise.

auraheart

graffiti 發表於 2014-5-15 22:37

                               
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This means that a USB DAC is a must when you play CAS

It is what I would get for playing hi resolution digital files..  My suggestion is not to worry about those hi price, hi end DAC.  Get something more practical at a reasonable price, at least for now.

柒喜

graffiti 發表於 2014-5-15 18:57

                               
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想知PC內的音效卡, 与外置迷你USB DAC (i.e. musiland 01US)及中型有chips的, (如burr brown etc,) 的DAC,  ...

不用比較因根本不同Class，就等於用最靚聲既tuner收聽電台音樂，跟唱片重播同樣樂曲，出黎效果全不相同。聽tuner收聽一樣可以很陶醉，我只能說一句，要睇你聽不聽得出分別、要睇你願不願意去花錢、要睇你有多大興趣去玩(Hi-Fi不可能一買回來隨隨便便就靚聲，需要耐心調校至自己喜愛的聲音)。我個人意見，只要自己玩得開心，管他媽的Hi-Fi就是，當然最重要就係睇個人修為

graffiti

柒喜 發表於 2014-5-15 23:36

                               
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不用比較因根本不同Class，就等於用最靚聲既tuner收聽電台音樂，跟唱片重播同樣樂曲，出黎效果全不相同。 ...

'聽tuner收聽一樣可以很陶醉，我只能說一句，要睇你聽不聽得出分別、'
可能我真係音樂细胞唔多夠, 曾經用四五佰蚊既USB DAC 仔播RIP左既歌曲, 同一部萬多二萬既CD机(相同setup) AB比較,我听不出分别, 除左CD輸出细聲少少. 不过當時只比較蔡琴隻碟, 沒有太多樂器..etc.

Eqpally

graffiti 發表於 2014-5-16 06:52

                               
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'聽tuner收聽一樣可以很陶醉，我只能說一句，要睇你聽不聽得出分別、'
可能我真係音樂细胞唔多夠, 曾經用 ...

The cheap USB DAC may actually had an edge over the expensive CD palyer @44.1khz...you never know.

柒喜

graffiti 發表於 2014-5-16 06:52

                               
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'聽tuner收聽一樣可以很陶醉，我只能說一句，要睇你聽不聽得出分別、'
可能我真係音樂细胞唔多夠, 曾經用 ...

小弟以膚淺角度去睇，graf兄有機未玩盡本身系統，不敢說那個高那個低，但分別一定有，聲音分離度、空間感、質感、甚至乎音色…………！就如不同既黑膠系統也有自已的聲音

auraheart

柒喜 發表於 2014-5-16 17:17

                               
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小弟以膚淺角度去睇，graf兄有機未玩會盡本身係統，不敢說那個高那個低，但分別一定有，聲音分離度、空間感、質感、甚至乎音色…………！就如不同既黑膠係統也有自已的聲音

I remember my systems, took over a year, some took few months to make it sound "right" to my ears.  Not only 黑膠, but Cd also.  Different recordings got different sound, quite noticeable...

auraheart

graffiti 發表於 2014-5-16 06:52

                               
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'聽tuner收聽一樣可以很陶醉，我只能說一句，要睇你聽不聽得出分別、'
可能我真係音樂细胞唔多夠, 曾經用 ...

"可能我真係音樂细胞唔多夠"   You are just being humble..  Way I see it if you love listening to music, perhaps singing and/or playing instruments.  That is good enough.  I listen to live music everyweek, none stop for years and enjoyed it.  Eventually, it became somewhat a major reference source to my hi fi experience.  I have no idea how often Hong Kongers go check out live shows, but definitely a good reference.  I live 3 blocks away from local live show places.  Jazz, blues, rock, popz, country everything and only need to drive for 15 mins for live classical concerts.

graffiti

auraheart 發表於 2014-5-17 04:39

                               
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"可能我真係音樂细胞唔多夠"   You are just being humble..  Way I see it if you love listenin ...

There are live music shows in HK too, in Mongkok and TST waterfront where street singers (of different age groups and cultures, mostly amateurs) and performers sing their hearts out every evening to entertain passers by.
They are not, of course comparable to those performance in concert halls and clubs in your place.
WE have to go to city hall and or district community halls for the sort of pro shows you mentioned.
   

auraheart

graffiti 發表於 2014-5-17 09:26

                               
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There are live music shows in HK too, in Mongkok and TST waterfront where street singers (of diffe ...

Maybe true, it is inexpensive to see live performance here...  Clubs and halls are all pro though.  There are street musicians too, some are good, but I hardly paid much attentions to them.
Clubs are social gathering places, unlike HK's club...NO porn here..hehe.  Enjoyed making friends and music, that is all.
Well, I do not consider here is my country.. Hong Kong is though..impossible to give up my feelings for HK, since I was born there.  I am still holding an HK ID card..

graffiti

柒喜 發表於 2014-5-16 17:17

                               
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小弟以膚淺角度去睇，graf兄有機未玩盡本身系統，不敢說那個高那個低，但分別一定有，聲音分離度、空間感、質感、甚至乎音色…………！就如不同既黑膠系統也有自已的聲音

Ching 說得颇有道理, 那時我喜歡听人声, 前后胆机 (300 B 后) 推, 低音及分析力等都限制了. DAC 跟 CD 就分別不大

柒喜

auraheart 發表於 2014-5-17 09:30

                               
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Maybe true, it is inexpensive to see live performance here...  Clubs and halls are all pro  ...

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