轉載: 台灣土炮 Lelio SYM-580A 6N純銀喇叭線

andyy

多人話正，就多人買

maestro

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幾皮嘢港紙一條線喎！。。。
唔知啲名牌要幾錢呢？

hkwatcher

柒喜 發表於 2014-1-21 12:18

                               
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只有純銅無金的

啊, 我老竇曾用過 Analysis PIus Golden Oval 喇叭線, 當時佢話我聽係純金嘅, 仲每對1.5m RCA單端式賣成港幣$25,000, 原來佢呃我或者佢被人呃, 喇叭線其實只係純銅包上一層薄薄嘅 24K 金而矣 !
咁請教你純銅包金嘅 Golden Oval 與 純銀嘅 Silver Oval 兩者優劣又如何呢 ?

auraheart

hkwatcher 發表於 2014-1-21 16:36

                               
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啊, 我老竇曾用過 Analysis PIus Golden Oval 喇叭線, 當時佢話我聽係純金嘅, 仲每對1.5m RCA單端式賣成 ...

You have the specs of the cables?
Silver's conductance is the highest in the world, where gold is just sorta prevent rust..you tell me.   Anything made of gold is expensive
Gold doesn't do much good other than anti corrosion. Again, the resistance/capacitance/inductance will directly affect the quality of the cable more than anything else.
Analysis Plus Big Silver Oval Speaker Cable is a lot cheaper than gold and it is a 9 gauge cable, very nice and thick.

補充內容 (2014-1-22 02:48):
Other than materials that used, the well crafted / design cable will play important role too, cuz it does affect the capacitance/inductance of the cable, not that much with resistance.

Peers123

高級玩意

hkwatcher

auraheart 發表於 2014-1-21 16:52

                               
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You have the specs of the cables?
Silver's conductance is the highest in the world, where gold is  ...

多謝 auraheart 師兄賜教 !
如果唔係純金嘅, 點解純銅喇叭線都賣咁貴 ?
其實銀都好易氧化啫, 點解又唔使包金呢 ?   

auraheart

hkwatcher 發表於 2014-1-21 17:00

                               
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多謝 auraheart 師兄賜教 !
如果唔係純金嘅, 點解純銅喇叭線都賣咁貴 ?
其實銀都好易氧化啫, 點解又唔使包金呢 ?

點解純銅喇叭線都賣咁貴 because it is called hi end...too many fishes around.  It wasn't like that 30 years ago.
It it is gold plated..it does not achieve hi conductance as pure silver.  Shouldn't be rusted too easily if under good care.  
Something that cost X amount of $$ then..could be 10X/100X now once it becomes hi end and over time, and we are talking about the same product.  I have seen it a lot over almost 40 years of my hi fi career.

hkwatcher

auraheart 發表於 2014-1-21 17:08

                               
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點解純銅喇叭線都賣咁貴 because it is called hi end...too many fishes around.  It wasn't like that  ...

聽君一席話, 勝聽十年 hi-fi !      

lomei

柒喜 發表於 2014-1-21 12:38

                               
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名牌都係土炮既前身

任人 up

lomei

auraheart 發表於 2014-1-21 12:48

                               
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Mine 係 cheap 嘢 .  5 係土炮   4 AWG Fulton Gold speaker cable.  Used that to drive  ...

真係好講究

UncleDuck

柒喜 發表於 2014-1-20 23:26

                               
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我說我話:  台記土炮6N純銀(銅線外圍)，平過Audio Note，白老鼠誰願

好似蛇皮

dingdum

柒喜 發表於 2014-1-20 23:26

                               
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我說我話:  台記土炮6N純銀(銅線外圍)，平過Audio Note，白老鼠誰願

有米之人的小玩意.

pokerusa

蛇皮喇叭線~

momomo1997

我只係用簡單的金銀線咋！

auraheart

lomei 發表於 2014-1-21 18:59

                               
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真係好講究

hehe, I am the only person among friends and anyone I know that use a 4 gauge cable...  That is for the lower range driver(s).
A pair of Petersen 編織  cable for upper range.  Both are no longer available for long long time. Of course, with a electronic cross-over.

張家輝

柒喜 發表於 2014-1-20 23:26

                               
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我說我話:  台記土炮6N純銀(銅線外圍)，平過Audio Note，白老鼠誰願

都應該好過大陸土炮掛~

auraheart

hkwatcher 發表於 2014-1-21 17:57

                               
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聽君一席話, 勝聽十年 hi-fi !

This is how it looks in drawing: (invisible to eyes, but it exists)  A resistor, coil and capacitor there in every foot of the speaker wire.  Causing all kinda trouble, lol...This 3 parts could form a invisible tank circuit, introduce impedance and worst could cause oscillation (not likely).  Greatly degrades the quality of the signal transferred. That is why the cable should be short and thick, where some hi fi fans disagree, even on this forum lol...says too long or too short, don't sound good.  Come on, this is physics lol...and been proven.  Silver or copper, less important in real life conditions, unlike what hi fi fan says.  I know some don't like hearing what I said, just my 2 cents, no offense.

Wire

柒喜

maestro 發表於 2014-1-21 15:54

                               
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幾皮嘢港紙一條線喎！。。。

幾十萬都有

柒喜

hkwatcher 發表於 2014-1-21 16:36

                               
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啊, 我老竇曾用過 Analysis PIus Golden Oval 喇叭線, 當時佢話我聽係純金嘅, 仲每對1.5m RCA單端式賣成 ...

導電蕊係銅但包金(廠方話包用三十年不發霉)，外皮用真金線作屏蔽层。其實你一直使用的話係唔會咁易氧化，銀/銅線點解咁貴有四個主因，一/名牌、二/視乎線既純度，亦即係幾多條九，現金最高係99.999999、三/設計，條線好唔好聲好睇屏蔽和翹法，最後是造工，現今大多沿用冷焊。

柒喜

momomo1997 發表於 2014-1-22 00:16

                               
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我只係用簡單的金銀線咋！

盡量唔好用，因金銀潤線制法不是拉出，是駁線，每當高電流通過有機會斷電引至燒機