ls 3/5a

hkkyiu

這裡有人玩 LS 3/5a 嗎？
是原裝舊版，還是新版？

有的話你的setup 是怎樣呢？

多謝分享

TOWINGWING

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I have one pair over 10 years old and pushed by Acoustat Trans Nova Power Amp  200W rms x 2 but recently one of the crossover is not working.  
Can we share your setup?

柒喜

hkkyiu 發表於 2013-6-9 01:48

                               
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這裡有人玩 LS 3/5a 嗎？
是原裝舊版，還是新版？

多年前短暫試玩過Rogers，期間亦在不同地方聽過Spendor & KEF(除卻黑白虎，因個人不甚喜歡這個牌子)，不敢說分享因只玩左幾個月Roger，期間因對她那種聲底(可說是音染)著迷，喇叭一擺對位/配對合適擴音後，什麼也不理只管一張又一張碟放過不停，況且LS 3/5a擁蠆眾多，只能渺渺數字說說個人感受。

先不論不同版本 11、15ohm，因聲底比較接近，但表現各有不同。Spendor 清淡，KEF 鏗鏘，Rogers 甜潤得來有一種磁力，聽慣比較，那是一種沒法回頭，就算如何也要把它留下來不可，要選那一對確靠個人喜好。
數年前，在朋友家中遇上Rogers六十週年紀念版，發現比印象中既Rogers 分析力更佳，樂器線條更清晰，動態、音場也更為出色，若以聽流行或搖滾樂，毫無疑問是更具說服力，可惜亦缺少特色，舊版泛音比較豐滿，速度慢，人聲/弦樂味道更靚，可能採用全新中低音單元關係。

最後，對LS3/5a擁躉來說，會認同自己的那對，但不同期數的LS3/5a都有一點用料上的差異，阻抗不同，接線柱不同、木皮不同，這些不同亦給聲底帶來差異，誰敢說那一對/牌子/年期最靚聲那一個才是正宗？

PS. LS 3/5a 愛膽是不容置疑，當年是用Jadis DA30推，一拍即合

hkkyiu

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I'm just a beginner.  A couple of my friends are much more experienced than me in this quest of music.

Yes 35a is not neutral, but I love the warmth and the tone of its vocal presentation. Female vocals is my favorite...

I used to have a black Rogers 11 Ohms. Paired with a Cary entry level preamp and Cary power amp. Sweet but not powerful enough.

Then chances came by, and I got 2 more pairs of Rogers, these are teak 15Ohms, and earlier models.  I am now using a Wadia player, directly feed to a Marantz 8B. Since Wadia can control volume, its good enough for me for now. (one pair is wrapped up as spare for now).

sold the 11ohms without losing any $$ to a friend... (if sold to others, I could have made some $$...)
35a price has been going up steadily. Its almost like buying this value will go up faster than stock mkt !!

I am having construction right now with the room, so the system is packed up until done.
I need to dig back into my pictures archive and can find you some pics of my setup.
Might need a couple days for me to find... nowadays, so much stuffs in HD, just stored away...

柒喜

hkkyiu 發表於 2013-6-9 13:33

                               
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I'm just a beginner.  A couple of my friends are much more experienced th ...

間房搞好，喇叭set好，快上黎分享下玩LS 3/5a既樂趣

hkkyiu

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師兄果然厲害！
一語道破不同廠的35a的特色

我聽過好幾對roger (不同時期及木料）
也聽過chartwell and harbeth. 其他就沒有聽過

但對我來講沒有很大分別，音色一樣甜美迷人

但35a一定要用膽機，用石機會變得很難聽

35a跟 jadis ja30 是絕佳combo.
如果 ja30 是用鐵腳EL34的話，我想應該是無敵 combo !!!

hkkyiu

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we gathered a few 35a for a party

hkkyiu

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my old setup...
stand is an old original target stand... with about 40lb lead.

柒喜

hkkyiu 發表於 2013-6-10 16:13

                               
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師兄果然厲害！

講得啱，EL34直情係杯未經加工既蜜糖，我試過換上KT90/KT88，力水係大左，但始終比唔上EL34推咁靚，感覺上EL34能夠令Rogers的聲更潤，更流暢，平衡度更高，音場亦較之寬闊，的確係絕配。
亦曾呈商友人借出300B推，因喜愛那種特質清澈，細致，高貴音色，但同樣跟Rogers一樣特性，输出功率小，不可能聽一些大動態，大聲壓的音樂，最後還是駁上Jadis DA30絕佳。

種沙，我鋼珠加石英沙，約三份二滿，喇叭底落三粒鋼釘，感覺低頻量收緊少許。

TOWINGWING

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C-hing....You are really profession and far better than myself...

lotus023

新版 KEF LS3/5a 11ohm ! 用膽機KT88 !

柒喜

lotus023 發表於 2013-6-12 22:17

                               
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新版 KEF LS3/5a 11ohm ! 用膽機KT88 !

可否講多少少

TOWINGWING

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C-hing....Just something cross my mind....So many ching like LS3/5A..but is there any service from agent of dealer?
My friend told me that this is very hard to buy any Driver and Corssover.  How true could this be?

hkkyiu

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this is very true. No supplier service old 35a.  You usually buy off parts on bad 35a, or ebay parts.  My friends who knows exactly what other speakers / models uses the same parts, and they'll buy the other models to chop up parts.  As for technican who can repair, I know a guy who knows how to service all old gears as hobby, and his queue is piled up for years... lol.

if you are looking for parts, my best guess is take a lot of hi def photos, and get online and ask.
if you need help, I can spread the word for you and see if any of my friends can tell you the part names or give you some links, but no guarantee.

hkkyiu

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a little off topic, CHING.  
your signature pic, the Flagship of MBL.  I have heard the one level down setup in a Hi Fi show.  I have to say that is THE MOST AMAZING setup I have ever listened.
I think the price tag for the set is US$800,000.
It was crazy.

MBL now have another cheaper setup for about US$50,000.  Heard the US$50,000 setup in this year's hi fi show. They have a home theater setup, and the woofer is bigger than an washing machine.

柒喜

hkkyiu 發表於 2013-6-13 20:19

                               
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a little off topic, CHING.  

九幾年只係朋友家中聽過舊款101，只覺聲音很真，個種音樂感很易令人馬上融入音樂中，定位唔錯，但不是pin point，低音絕不洶湧，係個種層次分明非常細致。

TOWINGWING

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Hi hkkyiu c-hing

I believe the difference between 11 ohm and 15 ohm are the Crossover.  The Drivers should be the same.

Do you have any comment?

hkkyiu

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I'm not sure whether they are the same or not.
I have a 11 ohm Rogers before, and driver does look similar.
sounded similar to 15 ohm, just the "sound base" not as "thick"...

But I have seen / heard a even later version, bi-wire in the back.
I think that's a spendor rosewood... (it was beautiful)
that I'm sure the driver is different.
because it sounded different. the sound is newer and not as sweet...
I didn't love it that much, so didn't buy...

hard to say...

TOWINGWING

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Hi  hkkyiu Hing

Just bought one set from UK (Ebay) for my friend.  Iet cost GBP375.00 included postage and my friend will pay HK$6000.00.  I did not ask for any profit and he does not care much about money.

hkkyiu

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Well, like most of us, I'm not rich at all.

but for me, hi fi is a hobby, not a job. So, I don't really look for profit.
just like when I sell my 11 ohm 35a to my friend, I sell it at cost.
good thing about selling to a friend is once in a while, I can go to his house and listen to it again... lol...
of course, if I sell it out to strangers, I'll check the market price, and look for a little profit.

I've met many hi fi guys that feels the same. they have a budget and they don't mind spending as long as they don't feel like got cheated.