政府出招打擊樓價：師兄弟姐妹有何意見！

seafoodw

政府到現在終於看到樓價實在太高，最先是向大陸人開刀，减少他們的銀行按揭，我個人認為係無用，因為他們有好多都不衰要向銀行借錢，他們可以是一疊疊銀紙現金去買，跟本就佢地現金太多，又唔想放銀行收嗰少少利息，所以用來買樓同股票抄高佢，愈抄愈高就到了現在地步，我好想睇一睇政府再用第二招及第三招來壓低樓價。

kawayu

現今「正苦」無能，做咩嘢都無用吖師兄

劍劍2号

窮者越窮,

富者越富.

仆街未死者得己番身

goku11

Lemonsir 發表於 2011-6-12 11:26

                               
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大陸炒家係冇得停，正如好多人都知，佢地係唔使做 loan，現兜兜就得！

不過只係有一個因素令到大陸佬退市 ...

"所以我會覺得打擊到中小型單位嘅成交"

I think it will not decrease the sales of small apartment
It is because the "fryers" will change to "fry" properties with value below 6million
They can use 6million to buy 2 apartments instead of 1, for renting, for reselling, for redistributing their risk

Why we need to suppress the market when all other advanced countries like US did not do anything to interfere the free market?

If the government wants to help people to own their own property, they should build more public housing and issue special loans for first time home owner

Remember, many people who keep crying of not able to afford housing will not be able to afford private housing even the price drops dramatically
and if the market drops dramatically, it will affect the whole society --> lay off staff, cut salary, cut benefits

Can you see the consequences? We need to see things as a big picture, but not just "hating the rich people"

"Hating the rich people" is a naive attitude. If the rich people don't have good income, they will only exploit the mid-to-low level staff even more.
It is the reality, we have to admit it.

goku11

nice discussion, please see comments in Blue

Lemonsir 發表於 2011-6-13 13:59

                               
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see my comment in red

"所以我會覺得打擊到中小型單位嘅成交"

I think it will not decrease the sales of small apartment
It is because the "fryers" will change to "fry" properties with value below 6million
They can use 6million to buy 2 apartments instead of 1, for renting, for reselling, for redistributing their risk (你有冇留意依家市區單位都已經要400萬以上，仲要係400-600呎左右嘅單位，冰有咁易一開二呀？！)
6million is just an example. If one has to invest 10million in one luxury apartment, they can now choose to invest in two 400-500million apartments instead.
Or one planned to invest 30million in luxury market, he/she can choose to invest in 6-7 small apartments
which will further drive up the market demand for small apartments

Why we need to suppress the market when all other advanced countries like US did not do anything to interfere the free market? (你又有冇睇美國個樓市果d 新屋銷售指數呀？！如果美國樓市係好嘅，美國就會有顯著通脹，經濟都可以復甦，果陣伯南克都唔知幾開心可以加息！)
I said US did not do anything to interfere the free market
Then what's your point of mentioning their sales index?
Also, it is good economy causing inflation, and then causing rise in property value, but not vice versa (like what you said 如果美國樓市係好嘅，美國就會有顯著通脹)

If the government wants to help people to own their own property, they should build more public housing and issue special loans for first time home owner(佢肯聽至算啦！)
that's why they keep releasing stupid policies....

Remember, many people who keep crying of not able to afford housing will not be able to afford private housing even the price drops dramatically
and if the market drops dramatically, it will affect the whole society --> lay off staff, cut salary, cut benefits (如果樓市真係要爆，任何人都阻唔住！)
of course, but it won't drop now unless there is any natural disaster. the global economy is still in favour to the rise of property and comodities value

Can you see the consequences? We need to see things as a big picture, but not just "hating the rich people" (所以你見到個措施都唔係針對有錢人，係換樓人士！)
What's the point to target 換樓人士?? They are real users and they are innocent.

"Hating the rich people" is a naive attitude. If the rich people don't have good income, they will only exploit the mid-to-low level staff even more.
It is the reality, we have to admit it. (係d 冇料到嘅人先要仇富，有手有腳都搵唔到就去依屎啦！
agree, that's why many people should go to eat shxt

tboy2046

Lemonsir 發表於 2011-6-12 11:26

                               
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大陸炒家係冇得停，正如好多人都知，佢地係唔使做 loan，現兜兜就得！

不過只係有一個因素令到大陸佬退市 ...

絕對認同,現在害苦是一班中產人仕,想換樓都未必換到,因按揭分級關係,其實政府做甚麼都無用,要升便會升,要跌的想阻也阻不了.

blow_water

what a shame of the HK gov?
only know push up the price and good for rich business men

wmy2004

絕對認同,現在害苦是一班中產人仕,想換樓都未必換到,因按揭分級關係,其實政府做甚麼都無用,要升便會升,要跌的想阻也阻不了.

mm2046

回應 煩惱 的帖子

咁又唔係完全冇用，以前大陸客如果有一干萬，佢可以做3成買3間一干萬的樓。
而家只可借不足五成，分分鐘要pay off 一干萬買得一間，從demand角度上已經係decrease左。
好多以前o既分析冇諗過大陸人做leverage。其實樓市需要境外資金，只係不能太多太快

Fei81

個市貴到咁真係買唔落手 ~