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ditch13

原帖由 Happppy 於 2008-4-28 07:28 發表

                               
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If you read my post in the same section, you will know my position.

plz cehck my reply....

If u don't mind, just call me 13 is well enough. Happy bro.

九樓有四仔

真係……睇到有些少滾……英文，都識幾個字母，除非響公司趕得濟打唔到中文，盡量我都會打中文，因為呢個叫互相尊重，既尊重呢個係中文網，亦尊重大家係中國人所以用中文！
無可否認，各家傳媒都要報導有利佢地自己國家新聞，但近幾年西方傳媒做到公正咩？唔見得喎，為自己公司/國家利益，指鹿為馬，黑白不分，睇得多，都慣囉。對比大陸共產黨，佢地家陣簡直係有過之而無不及！唯獨六七十年代，甚至六四，共產黨形象絕絕對對被大部份眉洋人士定為反派，唯嘆耐何……

如果閣下係中國人，而又身處或曾經身處中國政府管治地方，絕對有權去批評中國政府或甚至中國共產黨，因為你係呢度國民所以絕對有權！但唔該，一用中文，二睇埋其他國家攪緊乜，係咪有需要先槍口對外先再向內呢？！

Happppy

"無可否認，各家傳媒都要報導有利佢地自己國家新聞，但近幾年西方傳媒做到公正咩？"

Wrong....

That is not the position of western media, the media's job is to most objectively report the news and so if the government make mistake, they will cry foul, that is what the west is all about, about honesty, objectivity and what the people like to see, not what the country like to see, never what the government like to see...

Happppy

"對比大陸共產黨，佢地家陣簡直係有過之而無不及！"

Do you know today 大陸共產黨 still control media, and so what you read from China is only what they want you to read and to know... and they control internet, control any freedom of speech and still do not have protection on human right... especially when their power is being challenged... of course they have improved but it that enough... how will they be better?

"但唔該，一用中文，二睇埋其他國家攪緊乜，係咪有需要先槍口對外先再向內呢？！"

Sorry I do not want to spend a lot of time to use chinese input.  I have tried and took me hours to write a small piece.  I gave up....

I live in the US and here we have a lot of freedom to see what the world is really happening... We have here open and transparent government, unlike in china, in the communist world... here people enjoy high degree of freedom...

I criticize chinese government but not the chinese, because I am a chinese...

A chinese can be and should be an independent thinker... that is a basic human being standard... not what you describe inside looking or outside looking...

A chinese should be above all a human being first.

Happppy

A chinese that does not know what it means to be a human being and do not understand what human right is all about, is a very sad thing, in my humble opinion...

九樓有四仔

我都好辛苦架，我都識唔少人要打中文時好煩架，但連自己國家文字都唔尊重，因為煩就唔用，係咪好有關問題？閣下要我地大眾去信服閣下觀點，但都唔肯用些少努力去用我地溝通方法去同我地溝通，係咪有點兒……得吋進尺？既然有咁好觀點，點解唔花多少少時間去以我地溝通方式去說服我地？另……閣下尚以一個外國人心態去處理有關問題……可悲可悲……

打炮虎

原帖由 Happppy 於 2008-4-30 14:56 發表

                               
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A chinese that does not know what it means to be a human being and do not understand what human right is all about, is a very sad thing, in my humble opinion...

More sad thing is, someone has been educated in Hong Kong, where always prouds itself strong in "2 written languages and 3 spoken languages". But he cannot master English well, so all he can do is to "be proud of knowing Chinese more than English". What's more, I really do not understand why chatting in Chinese is more respectful than chatting in English. How come one's language proficiency will be related to the passion to his or her own country? Funny.

ditch13

原帖由 打炮虎 於 2008-4-30 18:08 發表

                               
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More sad thing is, someone has been educated in Hong Kong, where always prouds itself strong in "2 written languages and 3 spoken languages". But he cannot master English well, so all he can do is t ...

Can't agree no more.

九樓有四仔

如果要以英文去表揚自己文化水準有幾高，唔好意思，我諗我一定未夠班，就算計到以中文去想曬自己中文有幾叻，呢度大把好野過我，出發點係，呢度以中文發言多，點解仲要勉強其他人去接受你個思維模式，但又要人地去用你個溝通方式？呢個係我立場。
我就好小人之心，如果想要覆焯，得，去嘈交區，我等你，唔好響度玩暗吋，上鋪未玩夠想再玩，得我等你！但呢度係叫版務，呢條題早應該搬，嘈交/討論，去第二度玩唔該，講講規距啦唔該

後加……唔妥我我絕對唔介意橫豎道不同，不過係咪敵人o既敵人就係朋友，諗清楚唔該！

[ 本帖最後由 九樓有四仔 於 2008-5-1 00:40 編輯 ]

Happppy

"閣下尚以一個外國人心態去處理有關問題……可悲可悲"

I apologize for not able to use chinese... because I think most people in Hongkong know English enough to understand what I said...

You are welcome to use chinese to respond... it is not 可悲... Just do not have time...

外國人心態去處理有關問題, I am chinese in the US, not 外國人心態 but human 心態, because I belive chinese is human.... but not all human are chinese and chinese should be human first, and chinese second....

If you are not chinese then you cannot comment on chinese issue?  What about it is not chinese but human issue?  Where can you draw the line that the issue is chinese only but not human issues....

This is 21st century internet age and we cannot look at chinese as if it were not a part of human... we are all human first and chinese second... the problme is that you think you are chinese and therefore you are not human?  That is quite odd... isn't it?

We are human... US is multi-racial... US have chinese, korean, english, german, japanese and we co-exist in one country because we think we have the best system... you are welcome to come here to study, to live and to learn... through proper immigration etc...

We are open, and transparent, and own our government and elect our presidents...

We care about our country and other countries especially those countries of our origin...

We care and so we talk...

Happppy

"如果要以英文去表揚自己文化水準有幾高，唔好意思，我諗我一定未夠班，就算計到以中文去想曬自己中文有幾叻，呢度大把好野過我，出發點係，呢度以中文發言多，點解仲要勉強其他人去接受你個思維模式，但又要人地去用你個溝通方式？呢個係我立場。"

That position I respect... the problem is I don't have good chinese skills and I cannot use chinese to put up my argument...

表揚自己文化水準有幾高 sorry, I got my degrees in English and I only studied chinese in primary school in Hongkong over 20 years ago... I know very look chinese...

English is the language of the internet and I use English here because there are many people who can use English... and understand basic English...

Hongkone education to High school I believe and if you do not know English, it is definitely a disadvantage... to job, career and most importantly to the wealth of knowledge in the world....

Happppy

"後加……唔妥我我絕對唔介意橫豎道不同，不過係咪敵人o既敵人就係朋友，諗清楚唔該！"

I understand your positon but I think we can agree  to disagree and then co-exist.... and peace with argument and reason...

Because English is the internet language, I do not think there is a way to stop English in use...

HTML and all the basic of the computer and the net works in English, and I know quite well... you cannot stop people using English...

Happppy

If you want progress and technology, you have to know English, and that is my stand point... and why I continue to use English...

Happppy

"討論，去第二度玩唔該，講講規距啦唔該"

bro... I think you are right... it is about time to shut up... I have talked too much...

Thanks for your advice...

無岸

達賴十三已經夠衰,
達賴十四仲離譜,
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umum.. 推帖時講兩句會唔會唔合規矩架？

normalguy

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