Gimblett Gravels vs Bordeaux - the fully story (in short)

fatloong

edmondcu 發表於 2014-5-27 00:30

                               
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so professional..........any suggestion on 2011??

Why 2011?  The year your son/daughter was born?

hkmessi123

有機會飲吓先！

LasCases

fatloong 發表於 2014-5-26 07:20

                               
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Episode One – The Judegement of Taupo, 18 October, 2008

Taupo is a main tourist town located in th ...

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pokerusa

師兄的分享真是專業，小弟又多了一個可以嘗試的選擇了~

jetchu

多謝C兄介紹！

edmondcu

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不是.....係一個值得紀念的日子呀

lugard

so professional..........有機會一試

fatloong

edmondcu 發表於 2014-6-1 00:58

                               
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不是.....係一個值得紀念的日子呀

Depends on how long you want to keep the wine before drinking.  You can go to the bbr (www.bbr.com) or robert parker (www.erobertparker.com) site, look at their vintage chart and find out what you like.  It is very recent so all should be very easy to find, some even not available for sale yet.

edmondcu

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另外，我放家中陰暗位是否可以?

fatloong

edmondcu 發表於 2014-6-4 22:54

                               
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Unless you plan to drink those wines within one or two weeks, otherwise no.

Even 陰暗位 can have huge temperature variation between day and night, especially if it is a place that you may turn on your air-con from time to time.  Change in temperate can do more damage to a wine than store it at higher than optimal temperature.

It is ok only if the place has air con all or most of the time, in particular day time i.e. typical bed room is no good because the air con is on during night time, making the temperature difference even greater

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fatloong 發表於 2014-5-26 07:20

                               
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Episode One – The Judegement of Taupo, 18 October, 2008

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fatloong 兄 支酒 甘限量 一定價值不菲

fatloong

diabloworld 發表於 2014-6-5 19:33

                               
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fatloong 兄 支酒 甘限量 一定價值不菲

Not quite....

It was bought at the NZ airport, and cost around HK$230.  Rare <>價值不菲.  You can make your own wine, one barrel, 300 bottles only, but probably it won't be expensive.

edmondcu

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"What is in a name", proclaimed Juliet, "that a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet."; thus the quote from William Shakespeare' s play Romeo and Juliet. Since Romeo was a Montague, and Juliet was a Capulet, the 2 families having been enemies for decades, their union was deemed impossible and the tragedy ensued.

So, a name does matter, despite Romeo was a decent chap but he got the wrong name. The same applies to wines: what is on a label, that Cabernet  Sauvignon (when well made) under any other label, would taste as sweet. You take away the label, and the naked quality speaks for itself.

Or does it? A wine label, like Latour, Lafite, Haut Brion, etc, denotes centuries of histories, excellence, experience, trials and errors, and it is something you simply cannot take away through some blind tastings.

All these wine face offs throughout the years, the 76 Paris Judgement, Oregon Pinots vs. DRC, verticals of Petrus with a ringer of Clos Rougeard (a Loire Saumur red made from Cabernet Franc ) slipped in, and now this Gimblett Gravels pitted against Bordeaux 1st growths, the underdog won. What should me make of it?

My opinion is that they proved nothing. If I can afford to, I' d drink DRC, Latour anytime.The curiosity factor might make me taste the underdogs, but I shall not seek for it. The price of the underdogs have  not skyrocketed either, and there is no drop in price of the expensive cuvees,

fatloong

fokker 發表於 2014-6-13 00:12

                               
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Frankly I consider all these blind tastings just marketing gimmicks.

Since most of us has financial constrain, or at least opportunity costs (an evening with a first growth or an evening with a young pretty girl in MC ), I will take cheap alternatives more serious.

fokker

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Absolutely, and I also wonder if it is fair to compare 05 first growths or DRCs against New World wines which are far more approachable in their youths than the Old World' s. I mean wines like Lafite, Cheval Blanc and Haut Brion take years before they show their true potential.

I do not have a lot of experience drinking aged (15+years of bottle age) NZ wines. My first trip to NZ was in 1987, when we graduated from university and 4 of us classmates hired a car and toured, camped and hosteled all around NZ for 4 weeks. The wine industry was then in its infancy and I first came across the Cloudy Bay Sauvignon blanc. I made 2 skiing trips in the mid-90s to Queenstown and we went wine-tasting on bad weather days. The Pinots were starting to make a mark in central Otago. Last time I went to NZ was in 2009 and we were able to drink some 7-10+ year old pinots from Rippon and Chard Farm and one other winery (the name of which I cannot remember): they weren't really that suitable for extended aging. I mean NZ pinots are very good for what they are and how much they cost, but really aging them does not improve the quality. I also had some Malbec and Cabs from Stonyridge vineyard in Waiheke Island with some bottle age; again I enjoyed them in their youth more. That is just my personal taste.

I wonder what the results be 20 years from now with the same wines? Will the Gimblett wines hold on and improve? But one thing is for sure, the Bordeaux 1st growths will be much better than they are today, because past experience with these wines have revealed this to be the case.