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oldman1963

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mma 熱潮1
係乜野?

ditch13

oldman1963 發表於 2013-4-20 23:12
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mma 熱潮1

mixed martial arts

以空手, muay-thai 為主體
(巴西式)日本柔術摔投為重點

但係,好大程度上,啟發自李小龍先生既JKD

ditch13

其實話須 空手直抄我地國術.. 不過小弟自己覺得非常感慨....

借用一位網民既說話

看了實在有點感慨，中國的東西傳到外面去、往往反而能比較完整的­保存下來...

片中沖繩的剛柔流道場仍然保持著原汁原味的傳統武術訓練方式，在­中國的武術系統中已經很少見到了。再對比如今中國武林的很多現象­，如越來越"好看"卻離實戰越來越遠的套路，又如跟師父學個幾年­、自己再改動些招式外型就另外開宗立派（有時自己沒這麼幹、死後­徒子徒孫卻為了名或利硬把自己推上"開派祖師"的神壇），搞的傳­統武術最講究的尊師重道幾乎蕩然無存，實在令人痛心...

中國傳統講究一日為師、終身為父，所學的技藝也是如此，哪有姓李­的學了XX武術就變成了李氏XX、姓王的學了就是王氏XX的道理­？如果姓氏已經有別人先用了、乾脆冠以其他"古傳xx"、"密傳­xx" 或完全不相干的其他名稱，個個爭當"創派祖師"，這擱在從前就是­欺師滅祖的行為，輕則逐出門牆、重則廢去武功。心思都擺在爭名奪­利上了，哪還有心思好好學習傳承老祖宗的東西？...


小弟加多幾句, 空手不單保留中國古法, 學習過程亦重視實打 (儘管係我心中,依然不夠; 不過此為題外話):
保留古法者為 ""承先" ; 儘管我不時嘲笑空手後呢吸納muay-thai 踢腿 , 但人地訓練學法及技法 與時代接軌, 此為"啟後"


因此小弟直言, 想學一些可以實打既國術,直接學空手道吧!
咁講係好唏噓, 但又有咩辨法?
個個醉心爭名奪­利上, 何來 "承先啟後",光大中華???

仲要, 家師在港沒有開館, 技術上,我係"沒字頭"

life

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Well said.  Due respects to all without limitation.

ditch13

life 發表於 2013-4-23 10:04
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Well said.  Due respects to all without limitation.

Before I am not offending Karate its own but some foolish Hk practicer who have zero respect to any other kind.

Now when I write sth about 永春 and illustrate the similarities and differences between differen schools. Someone from a school naively believes  his school is the only school in this planet and tells me I have no respect to 詠春

All the above indicates the old-fashioned Chinese bad habits: aging politics and debating on authenticity instead of studying on application and improvement.

That's why I truly disgrace  these old guys. All they do is playing around politics . It reminds me the parallel between Christians when everyone is studying the same Bible but arguing on what they believe is the only true.

I have been studying and learning differen ancient martial arts and modern combat techniques ever since the early 80s. My path is a lonely path when I'm always isolated by the majority when they only listen without thinking -- it is not truly learning at all. But according to the semi-Communist thinking, one is always disrespecting whenever he asks.

Still,I 'm proud to say not even every professionals can take me down in the real fight . Perhaps it is my sole asset when I Have been investing my life for 30ith years:)

I truly wish not to judge and/or offend anyone and school. But it makes me very very sick when Wushu is fucked by politics , after all these 30ith years.....

ditch13

以前實打, 邊有重量之分?

重心再最要! 一失重心, game over!
所以, 對住摔摔, 現代muay-thai 好多人都唔想面對, 認為"不文明" (muay-boran 係有摔扳的 btw)

依家唔少令仔只睇拳賽, 不加思考!
如果話摔投唔公平,it's ok, 用muay-thai 低掃,已經玩死人了

對住長手長腳既對方, 一定要不斷遊走, 當佢地冇咩力, 引佢地出"死拳"!
一出"死拳",你雙手一捉,佢ko 了

life

ditch13 發表於 2013-4-23 12:13
以前實打, 邊有重量之分?

重心再最要! 一失重心, game over!

True, used to be in Hong Kong, there was no restriction when training that the same weight should fight with the same weight.  That is the same in the UK in many boxing clubs.

lich13

life 發表於 2013-4-24 08:57
True, used to be in Hong Kong, there was no restriction when training that the same weight should  ...

我好衰, encounter boxers, 會用掃,撐等 打腳中下路 (踝,止,膝)....
死人都唔俾佢埋身,
埋身, 如果有拳套就好, 可以方便摔
冇拳套就用肘壓住佢

ditch13

life 發表於 2013-4-24 08:57
True, used to be in Hong Kong, there was no restriction when training that the same weight should  ...

Old school is always better

UK boxing club 一般好高質
反觀北美只懂盲目跟風，不少boxing club 已經日落西山了

life

ditch13 發表於 2013-4-24 13:08
Old school is always better

UK boxing club 一般好高質

Very true.  Let's talk about this in another clips.  That's why a UK boxer could break Ali's jaw even he was about 20 lbs less than Ali.  

ditch13

life 發表於 2013-4-25 09:25
Very true.  Let's talk about this in another clips.  That's why a UK boxer could break Ali's jaw e ...

americans are somehow too dizzy with the flow and fashion

As always, it is a heaven for new styles but a hell  for any wit wisdom.....

yungkinkin

片中多數都係打螳螂,精彩

sweet heart

嘩...大開眼界

Zekka

lich13 發表於 2013-4-17 18:49
一個文革, 所有中國傳統文化工藝, 被破壞到 支離破碎

清未至民國.. 戰爭不斷 (包括 內戰和外戰)

True!! Cultural Revolution screws everything up!!  I wonder how much stuff (Kung Fu) are ruined!!

yellow173

呢啲先精采